Team Hatoful presents the Undertale Demo - Part 4

[davidn]

It's the final part of the Undertale demo! In this, we realize what we now have to do, and head to the final confrontation, which I attempt to resolve in the most peaceful manner possible.

Please have a supply of buckets for tears on standby, and curb any temptations for extreme violence towards plants that this video might unexpectedly awaken in you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1bP0dUPdEA

Comments

[ravenworks.livejournal.com]

Okay, I knew I should have expanded the comments, because this is basically the same point I just tried to make. ;)

And about the capturing setup -- don't forget that David is going to this extra level of effort, splicing his audio out separately, AND the game audio out separately, which (while nice) a stream could probably do without, and I'd bet that most do.... Really all you need is Google Plus itself, it streams directly to youtube if you aren't interested in editing.... and even if you are, I'm pretty confident you could do it with FRAPS and MAYBE a second laptop for your microphone.... though I admit I'm kind of beat at the moment and less able to tease the theory all out than I thought I would be at the start of this paragraph. ;p

[davidn]

My recording setup got significantly simpler when I started using FRAPS (though bear in mind it can't hook into games that don't use DirectX/OpenGL, maybe one of the two, I can't really remember.) I had to record three different channels when I was using the manual screen-recording method, but now it's down to two - and FRAPS by some black magic has the ability to record from both microphone and speaker output at the same time if you choose to do it, and that would bring it to just one (with no need for a microphone laptop). The only reason I didn't was that I like having the game audio separate from my voice - it allows for editing that's just a little more professional, especially if I can eliminate any involuntary breathing/coughing noises on my part.

I forgot about Google Plus (which we may have to permanently, if they don't fix this horrendous feature and any other games are particularly keyboard-heavy!) - for an unedited play session, yes, that really is all you need.

[davidn]

I've also been thinking about the keyboard problem and wondering if I could get around it by running the stream from a computer other than the one I'm playing on, but having to expend energy on this is honestly vexing when the system worked perfectly before!

[premchaia_pre4]

Surely if it's audio-based detection, you'd have to use acoustic isolation anyway? You'd have to find some way to route only your voice and not ambient clicking into the microphone…

[davidn]

Blaaagh! I forgot it might be audio-based (I haven't tested it completely because the "feature" only turns on when you have four or more people in a hangout). If it really is done like that, then I've no idea.

[premchaia_pre4]

I was there (well, observing, at least)! You also found out that it was audio-based, surely? You even mention it in the first video, as I recall. You wound up with a duvet over your hands to drown outsuppress the noise so the microphone wouldn't pick it up and trigger the detection software that would close the noise gate. Unless something's changed since then.

Append: also if it only triggers above a certain user threshold, that could just be an incentive to form smaller groups to begin with…

[davidn]

I thought at first that it had cured it, but later on I wasn't so sure, as it seemed to trigger occasionally no matter how quiet I was being... between that and Kjorteo's test, I wonder if it's looking for frequency of keystrokes (many of them in quick succession trigger it, slower ones - as might be produced when trying to be quiet - don't...)

[premchaia_pre4]

I thought Kjorteo's test was pretty conclusive. Not to mention what looks more authoritative.

"we can adjust the threshold parameters as we see the need." Never mind the actual users being able to adjust them. This is what happens when you let things get so centralized, folks…

"as this evolves and we see our detection getting more and more accurate, we'll consider going to smaller hangouts too. but for now, we'll start with 4+ rooms." Hah.