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davidn ([personal profile] davidn) wrote2013-05-30 09:22 pm

Stumbling through Super Metroid - Part 9

Here's another fifteen-minute episode, in which this time a whole lot more happens! The exploration continues, I end up a bit stuck, then remember something I ignored earlier and get right back on to the route again, including epic battles with two bosses, one manageably small and one intimidatingly large. And grabby.


http://youtu.be/1NSei4KciRA

[identity profile] crassadon.livejournal.com 2013-05-31 04:15 am (UTC)(link)
Maridia: you want to throw up, thinking about going from one side of Maridia to the other. Great music, though!

I'm glad you had so much difficulty with the boss of this area, or as I've always called it, the. . .that, thing. I've never actually come up with a name for it. .

[identity profile] xaq.livejournal.com 2013-05-31 04:52 am (UTC)(link)
"I don't think Americans know what Kinder Surprise is..."

I only know about them thanks to the legal hullaballoo there is about whether they're legal to sell in the US. (Short answer: they aren't. (http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/21/342) Long answer: Under U.S. Code Title 21, Section 342, they're marked as an "adulterated food" due to being a confectionary with something wholly embedded in them that serves no functional or nutritional purpose.)

[identity profile] xaq.livejournal.com 2013-05-31 05:05 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, uhh...did I accidentally reply to Crassadon's reply instead of the main post there? Hehe, whoops.

[identity profile] crassadon.livejournal.com 2013-05-31 08:27 am (UTC)(link)
Ohhh!!! I completely forgot to mention Kinder Surprise!! :D

I love them!! Everybody at my school would love them, and we would trade the little toys around; and even some of the teachers love them, and would trade the toys, too~ They would sometimes be rare "solid" toys, and you could trade two of the standard ones for one of those. . I still sometimes buy them; I just got a future race car.

I think they are banned in the US, because the small parts may injure children--although no other country has this issue, to my knowledge. I also think there's now a "Kinder Surprise-like" item for sales in the states with much the same general structure. But who knows! I must play video games, and cannot look this up!!! D:!

[identity profile] xaq.livejournal.com 2013-05-31 08:58 am (UTC)(link)
They are illegal to sell here, yes; I provided a link to the text of the specific law covering them in that last comment. To piece the exact wording together [and fill in the blanks as necessary, something which English 111 drilled into my head last semester], it goes like this:

"A food shall be deemed to be adulterated [and thus illegal to sell within the United States] if it is confectionary and has partially or completely imbedded therein any nonnutritive object, except that this subparagraph shall not apply in the case of any nonnutritive object if, in the judgment of the Secretary [of Health and Human Services] as provided by regulations, such object is of practical functional value to the confectionery product and would not render the product injurious or hazardous to health[.]"

So basically, unless this person (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Secretary_of_Health_and_Human_Services) says they're okay, we can't have them. (That "judgment call" caveat, by the way, is why we're allowed to have lollipops even though the handles meet this criteria of them being "adulterated" foods.)

[identity profile] xaq.livejournal.com 2013-05-31 04:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Welcome to America. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/WillRennar/ViridianPonyShrug.png)

[identity profile] crassadon.livejournal.com 2013-05-31 03:13 pm (UTC)(link)
. . .Secretly, I don't even know what the hands of cards even are, so I would still like to play that version.

[identity profile] xaq.livejournal.com 2013-05-31 05:04 am (UTC)(link)
I have to say, it amazes me to no end (and often baffles me) how you do things in a way that seems completely illogical to me in this game.

Particularly taking down Draygon THE HARD WAY. ....I'd actually forgotten that was possible!

[identity profile] crassadon.livejournal.com 2013-05-31 08:22 am (UTC)(link)
There's an easy way??!!?!?!!!!?!?!?!?!!

. . .an easy way that a usual player can pull off??

[identity profile] xaq.livejournal.com 2013-05-31 09:01 am (UTC)(link)
Yep. Those blaster things that he blew off the walls at the start of the fight? The Grapple Beam will latch onto those.

You can let Draygon grab you, wait until it gets you close enough, then latch on and barbecue the both of you. If you've got enough health, it will die from the shock before you do.
Edited 2013-05-31 09:02 (UTC)

[identity profile] crassadon.livejournal.com 2013-05-31 10:17 am (UTC)(link)
Those crafty bastards. . . Anyway, I always beat the boss the same way David did. Which is why Maridia was always quietly nightmarish to me, because I knew I simply might not be able to beat the boss when I reached that far. I honestly had much the same issue with the phantom of the wrecked ship, Phantoon, though that area was much more claustrophobic.

[identity profile] xaq.livejournal.com 2013-05-31 04:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I mentioned it in the video comments...the bit Raven mentions in the comment below. Honestly, the thought of using the Spring Ball to take that tunnel in reverse to get the E-Tank has never occurred to me until you did it.

Not quite as much of a "How/Why did he do THAT!?" as how you got to the Grappling Beam room, but still not something I expected.

[identity profile] ravenworks.livejournal.com 2013-05-31 03:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, I realised, I might as well mention now -- I normally made it through that quicksandy area without the spring ball by speed-boosting through the bricks below it! (And straight across the top of the quicksand itself in the process...)

[identity profile] crassadon.livejournal.com 2013-05-31 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Gah, I feel like I'm the only person who cares about spoilers this much. .

[identity profile] xaq.livejournal.com 2013-06-01 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, nothing really lost in telling him how he -could- have gotten something, especially considering he did it the hard way (or, more accurately, the ridiculously complicated way which none of us would have ever thought of) and we're just telling him how it was -supposed- to happen.

Still, now he's making me want to play through it again and see how well I do without the Speed Booster.

[identity profile] xaq.livejournal.com 2013-06-01 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
...And I think I just found my answer. The Ice Beam is completely inaccessible without the Speed Booster, it seems. o_O;

[identity profile] xaq.livejournal.com 2013-06-01 02:03 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, so after a compromise of "get the Speed Booster, then shut it off as soon as I have the Ice Beam," I managed to get it, crushed Crocomire (I should note that I'm doing this on a cheating-bastard run; max Energy, Missiles, Super Missiles, and Power Bombs right off the bat), got to where you made your infamous How The Hell Did He Get Up There run at the Grappling Beam...

and 47 attempts later, I pulled it off! :D Had to drag the whole damned swarm of fire gnats along to do it, but I did!
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[personal profile] kjorteo 2013-06-02 08:18 am (UTC)(link)
You can Mockball to get the Ice Beam (and to get past that one set of collapsing blocks + lowering gate thing combo in Brinstar that's also meant to require the Speed Booster), but that's ... not the most legitimate technique in the game. (At least wall jumping is something you're supposed to be able to do, whereas Mockballing is straight-up glitch exploitation.)

[identity profile] crassadon.livejournal.com 2013-06-01 02:31 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, but, he's already beaten the Maridia boss; regardless of anything, that will have no impact on the video in any fashion. If he didn't know that he can quickly run through those bricks, it's still possible that fact could influence future videos. . .slightly!!